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March 22, 2006

Evangelicals for Separation of Church and State?

Jim V on October 6, 2006 01:43 AM EST writes:
Baptists and Church & State

Baptists have traditionally stood for the separation of Church and State. A reading of the older Westminster Confession of Faith and the Belgic Confession insist on a more integrated role. These confessions have been amended in the relevant chapters to reflect more of a Church-State separation. John Calvin was a reluctant governor of Geneva, Switzerland. He wanted to study and write, but a colleague encouraged him to take the position. After a time he was dismissed, and he gladly left to pursue academics. But things got out of hand in Geneva and he was recalled. Martin Luther would rather be governed by a competent pagan than an inept Christian. A Christian, however, should live out his faith in every area of life. If he/she shows a competence for civil government, he should be encouraged. But he'll have a difficult time of it, as Calvin did.
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Chuck DubDubDub on March 23, 2006 10:03 PM EST writes:
Here here!

It's called revisionist history and they've been doing it from day one. Otherwise how could they be Christian and so vehemently pro-War?
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Bryan Walthall on March 23, 2006 04:11 PM EST writes:
The thing that constantly ticks me off and what caused me to leave Evangelicalism is this notion that America was founded by Christians and is therefore a Christian nation. This is a nice myth for white people, but it is not true. Ask any Native American who has a sense of history or any African-American who has gone through grade school. Conservative Evangelicals constantly want to say "America must return to its Judeo-Christian roots/heritage". Really? How Christian was it to go to church and then right afterward lynch a black man for looking at a white woman (such as was done to Emmett Till)? How Christian was it to turn firehoses on civil rights marchers and their children or sic dogs on women and children?

I'm sick of white Christians saying this mess. This is why my people KNOW that Christianity is the "white man's religion". It's all about control and subjugation and has NOTHING to do with Jesus the Messiah.

I love Jesus, but I'm not sure I like his people.
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John Spalding on March 23, 2006 10:41 AM EST writes:
All fixed.

Thanks for pointing out the error in the text, TL Michael Auman. Part of the article got cut in the final layout. It's been restored.

Lyric C.: Indeed, the First Amemndment says "an." I'll let Steve W know his original essay quotes it as saying "the" instead.
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TL Michael Auman on March 23, 2006 09:26 AM EST writes:
Textual errors

Please note: the last sentence in the the paragraph following the subtitle "The original intent" has textual errors. Check out the original article at beliefnet for the correct text.
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Lyric Crossborn on March 23, 2006 02:05 AM EST writes:
Interesting article and some good points. However, in quoting the First Amendment, you make erroneously substituted "the" where there should be "an". It correctly reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting AN establishment of religion..." The difference between two smal words can and does lead to very different reasoning in this case. "The" establishment of religion implies a government endorsed faith. "An" establishment of religion is a church, synagogue, mosque, etc. Interchanging the article "an" for "the" may allow one to read into the Bill of Rights something that is not there at all.
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