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June 1, 2006

Other Voices, Other Worlds

Chuck Wyatt on August 16, 2006 03:54 PM EST writes:
You pick and choose what is "sinful"

Aaah, yes the Bible is the ultimate ahistorical authority on defining the sins of "man" errr or maybe "two" men as it were.

Instead of this ahistorical view, as espoused by the Lambeth Conference, how about we agree to see these parts that condemn same-sex love as vestigial? Who is really hurt by this?

Oh no, we're talking "Word of God" you can't "pick and choose what is right and wrong" you say?

Now we're just talking about judgment of lifestyle of individuals and who they choose to love. Let's change the focus slightly, to something that matters a bit more in the world: If you believe in "Thou Shall Not Kill" from the same "Word of God" should you not also vehemently oppose war in all its forms?

Just going by my own prejudice, Michael, I bet that commandment doesn't quite work that way for you, eh? Lots of embryos are destroyed in warfare!
It seems that Bible-granted "right to life" ends where Republican geo-political warfare begins!

-Chuck
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Michael on August 15, 2006 06:03 PM EST writes:
Just because it is a common occurrence does not mean it is right and proper. If we are all conceived in sin, why shall we not say "all things are dynamic ways in which the spirit work--including murder, rape, stealing..." Oh, I know why we don't say that--because just like homosexuality, they are singled out as sins by the Lord God.

Homosexuals are one thing: they are humans who live in sin, just as we all do, capable of coming to Christ in repentance and receiving forgiveness. Homosexuality is another: it is the sin itself. Until we recognize this distinction and ask homosexuals to actively seek to turn around a practicing a lifestyle, we are far off-base Biblically speaking. I have no problem with people being guided by born passions. I do have a problem seeing them pursue pssions we know by the Word of God to be sinful.
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Mike L on July 17, 2006 04:57 PM EST writes:
Bravo!!

But we must realize that the Episcopal Church in the USA (the minority dissenters asside)is very much in the avant-guard of Christian thinking. In this way it is, I believe, quite prophetic. One day, hopefully not too far in the future, folks will look back and wonder what all the fuss about homosexuals was about.

And they may wonder why the church was not so hot and bothered about the crime over poverty (something that even a cursory reading of the New Testament shows that our Lord was much more concerned with than sexuality)
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