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September 5, 2006

Steve Irwin's Final Lesson

Skye on September 12, 2006 09:27 PM EST writes:
Apologies. .

Aloha!

Just wanted to say that I've been able to view enough about Steve Irwin's work and intentions and I know now that he did a lot of good.

I had previously seen only the reckless side that was often played up and became the focus of what was often presented by the major media.

Hopefully the good work he began will continue on. My apologies for what may have seemed disrespectful.

Aloha & Mahalo. .

In Light, Skye
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RR on September 12, 2006 07:47 AM EST writes:
Michael: You can't figure out why it's helpful to ponder the meaning of the lives and deaths of others? Really? It sounds like you must have a terrible personality disorder.

Though I do wonder whether you really thought before you started typing. You say there are no conclusions to be drawn from Steve Irwin's life and death, yet you then conclude, "If you play with fire sometimes you get burned and sometimes you don't." That, my friend, is apparently the lesson, however lacking in empathy and imagination, that you drew from Steve's life.
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mary Beth Crain on September 12, 2006 12:43 AM EST writes:
Michael: If the article I wrote was no big deal in your view, how come you made such a big deal of the fact that it was no big deal? Most people don't bother to write in about something that's meaningless. At least the piece provoked you enough to respond to it, which means it contained a grain of meaning. However...it happens to be a fact that many things that seem meaningless in and of themselves do indeed have a great deal of meaning in a larger context, if one is intelligent and imaginative enough to see it. Try turning that switch in your brain to "On" and see what happens!
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Michael on September 11, 2006 08:11 PM EST writes:
finding meaning

Why do you have to look for meaning where it doesn't exist? Is Steve Irwin's death meant to mean this or that...???
He did what he did and now he is dead. There is no 'lesson' to be learnt. Why ponder it.
If you play with fire sometimes you get burnt and sometimes you don't. So what. Big deal.
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tannerh on September 7, 2006 08:52 PM EST writes:
Two valid points of view re judging

There are 2 valid points of view that I see being discussed here.
1) "Don't judge others, see their positives"
Irvin lived life to the fullest. So reexamine your lives and do likewise.

2) "Now children. Please follow/don't follow Irvin"
If you discuss Irvin's life with your children, would you encourage or
discourage them to emulate him?

If I tell my children not to emulate him, am I judging him?

There is no right or wrong here but depending on which point you take, you'll
see Irvin's life somewhat differently. I would take (1) if discussing amongst
adults, but (2) for my own kids. However, now I am inconsistent.
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Lorraine P on September 7, 2006 01:04 PM EST writes:
Humble article

I read the article, then the postings up til now and I have to say Steve had an impact on all of us - if not for a long while, with his death - look at all the people who are talking, thinking and sharing. Although there are a few inaccuracies in the article, Mary Beth took the moment to think about it and reevaluate her past snap judgement. That is a humbling reflection and Steve would be moved that he was able to touch someone that way. We will miss Steve - he was real, he had a true zest for life and for the animals - not for himself - it wasn't about Steve - it was about the animals. His personality was his attraction - we loved him because he was so real and in the moment. I'm glad Mary Beth took the time to write about her feelings. Let's respect that. As Steve would say "you're alright".
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Mary Beth Crain on September 7, 2006 10:58 AM EST writes:
To Michelle (and Everyone Else Who Didn't Read My Piece): I am appalled that you would have the nerve to write such vicious, idiotic drivel about my piece on Mr. Irwin. Can you read at all? If you could, you'd realize that I wrote IN PRAISE of Irwin and DEFENDED his life! In fact, I did exactly the opposite of everything you accuse me of! I talk about how passionate he was, how committed to wildlife conservation. I talk about how he was a happy husband and father of two great kids. I talk about how I admire him. You are either dyslexic, illiterate or a certified moron. Maybe Hooked on Phonics would help you to start reading. But I don't know what would help you to start thinking.
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Virginia LaBrie on September 7, 2006 12:02 AM EST writes:
Steve Irwin

In The Sac Bee of 9-06-06, an article about Steve Irwin quoted People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and a response from PETA, a Lisa Wathne. In neither of these responses was there any sympathy for his untimely death-- It appeared from their responses that he got what he deserved. How Sad.
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Michelle on September 6, 2006 11:32 PM EST writes:
Oh my Gosh!! How is it that people - who have never experienced life or done anything worthwhile, be allowed to write such rubbish. Steve Irwin was a warm, generous and great man! I personally took my son to meet him in December of 2001. He was articulate, enthusiastic and passionate, something this AWFUL and HORRIBLE person obviously is not. Get a life! Get a REAL JOB and leave this man and his family ALONE. What you all forget is he was a husband and father. Step back and take that into perspective before you SLANDER his good name. How would you like to wake up every morning and have some obnoxious sudo-journalist write hateful and harmful things about the person that you loved and was the light of your life? Just because you have a pathetic excuse for an existence, does not mean that others want to hear your endless dribble and slanderous words about a beautiful human being who truly cared for all of God's creatures - even a pathetic excuse for a human as you - Miss Mary!!
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Myk on September 6, 2006 09:08 PM EST writes:
Steve Irwin

My husband is from Australia, and I have had the honor to go to Australia Zoo and meet Steve Irwin, rest in peace. People can call him hyper or careless or ego anything, but the man was all about one thing, and that, is PASSION! If all of us could be that excited and enthusiastic about our jobs and what we do, this world would be running smoothly! So back up off the man and his ways. He is great for conservation, he's been integrated into a generation (like my daughter) and the world that we are so carelessly corrupting had a champion in him. Hopefully his death will teach some of us how to live. Steve Irwin was that passionate at the zoo, no cameras rolling. It is who he is, what he was, and the legacy that he passed on to many, MANY children, including his own! Go ask Bindi about any reptile! She's more savvy then most adults! My prayers and thoughts to Terri, Bindi and Bob. We've all lost a champion.
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Skye on September 6, 2006 08:55 PM EST writes:
response. . to j Spalding

Aloha!

Well, I suffered through the entire clip hoping that something would tell me what positive impact Mr. Irwin had on the environment.

Very honestly I was apalled by the number of misrepresentations about the beauty and grace shared with us by Creator(or whatever higher power you honor)through the animal kingdom. I saw only disrespect and an encouragement to put ego over a sense of responsibility and caretaking these beautiful creatures.

Perhaps Irwin's view will change from the other side.

Mahalo!
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J. Spalding on September 6, 2006 03:05 PM EST writes:
Skye,

Given your reservations about Irwin's work (which I share, btw, as does Mary Beth, I believe), you might appreciate the "South Park" tribute I mentioned in today's blog. You can view the clip here:
http://www.bestweekever.tv/tag/South+Park
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Skye on September 6, 2006 01:47 PM EST writes:
Steve Irwins passings

Aloha!

I did not feel the article to be disrespectful. I did, however, feel that Mary Beth must have put blinder's on the be ale to write the article.

Is passion the outrageous, flamboyant act that gets everyone's attention or is it the difficult, courageous decision we make in the still of the night?

I found Steve's antics to be very destructive and contary to a view that reveres, respects, nurtures and teaches that we are a part of nature and not here to dominate and conquer such.

Who of us would encourage or let our own or any children pull such stunts?

Of all the articles I've seen written, nothing has informed me of his actual conservation efforts. I'm not saying that he wasn't, just that nothing so far has detailed such. Please inform me.

Perhaps we have lost a great conservationist, but I am most sorry for his wife and children who will no longer have a husband and father.

Blessings to All including Steve's family. . .

In Light, Skye Coe
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K.D. on September 6, 2006 01:32 PM EST writes:
message to Lynn

To clear things up with Lynn, I think you misunderstood the comment. Yes when you point your finger at someone else, there are "three" pointing right back at you. No one said they are perfect. The statement was a "reminder" not to judge others.

God bless you.
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scarey on September 6, 2006 12:44 PM EST writes:
Mary Beth needs to get her facts straight

Steve was swimming ON camera;rays are NOT considered deadly animals, they have a venomous barb in their tail that is deployed INVOLUNTARILY upon threat;rays do NOT bite;rays do NOT attack. They are very docile,curious animals. And please do not try to compare your lazy self to one of the greatest champions of wildlife of our time. Oh, and his manager, John STAINTON (not Stinton) and Steve had talked about the ocean not being his element. I wish he had known the sea better. He will be greatly missed, but his legacy of teaching young & old the world over, knowledge and appreciation, will live on. I truly hope Terry will continue his work especially about starting the preserves. God bless them.
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heidi tovar on September 6, 2006 12:03 PM EST writes:
marybeth's article/s.irwin

Dear Mary Beth, your article was a reflection of your honesty and integrity
I respect you for that.
Few people would meditate on someone's else life to do a reality check on their own.
You did that with courage and honesty. Bravo!
Now it's the time to make some changes. Get up and get out. Do not be afraid of dying. Use your courage to help yourself and others.
Come close to God. He is waiting for you. (James 4:8).
Death is just a temporary enemy on earth. It will be no more very soon. (Revelation 21:4).
I congratulate you and encourage you to develope the wonderful person that you are hiding within.
Thanks for your honesty. You helped me reflect on the true important things in life.
May Jehovah God continue blessing you.
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heidi tovar on September 6, 2006 11:46 AM EST writes:
Mary

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Loso on September 6, 2006 11:17 AM EST writes:
Steve Irwin

This article caught my attention. I felt very bad for Steve when I heard the news but was not really much of a fan. I appreciate him more after her article. Her point is although we don't live nearly as exciting lives as Steve did (because he was brave enough to get of his b*tt and live life)
we all live in a danger zone of our own making (boredom) by NOT living life and caring for ourselves. We would all be better off if we had a passion!!
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DG on September 6, 2006 11:07 AM EST writes:
Steve Irwin's Final Lesson

Life is indeed too short. If we all could find the very passion for life Steve Irwin did, how would we be different? How would the lives of our children be different? It takes courage; something not easily found. Thank you Ms. Crain for reminding me that inspiration comes in many forms.
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Deborah on September 6, 2006 09:52 AM EST writes:
Negative feedback

Some of the other comments posted here lead me to believe that people did not finish reading this to the end. They certainly didn't get the point of what she was writing about. I thought it was negative at first myself, but reading it to the end brought the article full circle to praise of the way he lived his life.
Her article was great.
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Deborah on September 6, 2006 09:48 AM EST writes:
Awesome

I think the author made an incredible, awesome point. What I considered is why is it so sad that he is gone, when we all knew it was going to happen with his line of work. It is sad because I will miss his PASSION. He was passionate about what he did. About life and nature and God's creation. He saw the good in animals we all sometimes see as mean or evil or bad. Awesome article.
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Lynn on September 6, 2006 08:50 AM EST writes:
Steve Irwin artical

We have all judged without knowing from time to time.To say that we have not, is like saying we are perfect.We're not! Only GOD is perfect.Are we the first to admit it with honesty? I don't think so.Your doing the same to her.As she has admitted doing to Steve.I believe she should have been praised and commended for being real!Showing that our hearts and minds can being changed.She also was saying.That each of us.When we point the finger,the thumb is pointing right back at us.You people need a wake-up call.Look into your Bible,then take a(real) good look at yourself!
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PC Vandyke on September 6, 2006 08:17 AM EST writes:
Well, I see what you mean...

I re-read the article. My first impression was that the author had an awakening. However, I think I had my blinders on because I feel so strongly about Steve's work, and untimely departure from our realm.

The more I think about this article, the more it bothers me. I honestly find it very difficult to understand her ridicule of someone who brought so much good to the world around him. I think Steve was one of the true characters of our times. He lived life and he left behind a lasting legacy of what he believed in. He loved all living things, and I think he is up there looking down and smiling. I hope he's thinking, "Blimey, look how many people really loved me."
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K.D. on September 6, 2006 06:57 AM EST writes:
final lesson, please...

Thank you. You said it all.
God bless you.
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ML Robbins on September 6, 2006 06:40 AM EST writes:
Final Lesson, please . . .

Final Lesson? Please, Ms. Crain, I log on first thing every morning for inspiration. This article was actually vicious, barely missing the " . . .he deserved it" stance. Why bother even writing about a man she obviously knew nothing about. She began by blasting Irwin's character, integrity & motives, much more venemous than any creature Irwin may have encountered in the wild. I am not convinced that she really does have a change of heart. Speaking of irony, she NEVER would've written about him had he not been the top news story of the day/week. Thereby, to accuse Irwin of media-seeking, Ms. Crain . . .shame on you. Steve Irwin had a gift & a mission--God, family, and promoting and enhancing all living creatures in a world where we have literally pushed wildlife to the brink. There are many other ways he could've commanded attention. Where, Ms. Crain, is your compassion? My younger sister died from diabetic complications, & yet remained a compassionate and gentle spirit.
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K.D. on September 6, 2006 06:29 AM EST writes:
Steve Irwin article

All I have to say to the writer about this article is, maybe Steve Irwin believed in what he was doing with his life. Who are you to judge anybody? And who are you to know what anybody's life lesson is? Has someone givin you the authority to do that?
Judge NOT, lest YOU be judged.
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PC Vandyke on September 6, 2006 06:15 AM EST writes:
Did You Read the Article?

I have adored watching Steve Irwin for many years. When I read the news of Steve's death I quickly felt the tears. My tears are for his loved ones, and to be honest, for myself and all the other fans who will miss the big smile and his silly antics. He was truly one of a kind. The world is a sadder place with him gone.

The very point the author makes in the article is that Steve Irwin lived his life with enthusiasm and purpose. She acknowledges the great things that Steve stood for.

The only comparison she made was the irony. So many people who are afraid to live life fully are actually in as much danger as Steve was, without the rewards.

Steve took risks, but he loved what he did. The article simply asks the reader to reconsider their own lives. I think we could all learn a lot from Steve Irwin. I wish I could look back and say I had been as true to my self as he was. He will be missed.
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T.L. Frisbee on September 6, 2006 03:20 AM EST writes:
Steve Irwin article

It's a Croc! This article written about Steve Irwin, that is. The author whines about why not play it safe. Irwin was a spokesman for the conservation of these reptiles. He was flambouyant but did a lot of good things with the success of his series. What has the author done to compare? She should not try to compare living in danger daily as a diabetic eating a piece of chocolate cake with someone who puts his life in real danger while educating the public on nature's creatures. Her article is a Croc!
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